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Post by captaincoconut on Jan 18, 2010 19:51:41 GMT -5
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Post by maddogblues on Jan 19, 2010 17:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by captaincoconut on Feb 4, 2010 10:39:59 GMT -5
That video is slander, the prophet of god never made such statements. This is precisely why mormons were given their own state, to preach the word of Jehovah, unmolested by falsities and misquotes from outsiders.
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Post by maddogblues on Feb 4, 2010 14:51:37 GMT -5
That video is slander, the prophet of god never made such statements. This is precisely why mormons were given their own state, to preach the word of Jehovah, unmolested by falsities and misquotes from outsiders. Who was it that gave them the state? Usually, at least as the bible record states, when Jehovah gives something to his favorites it involves genocide and theft. Would that be the case in this instance? Actually I have been in Utah and would not take it if it was given to me.
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Post by ninjamantis on Feb 5, 2010 18:36:21 GMT -5
Interesting little cartoon there Dave. There may be some slivers of truth in this tale but it sure has the fingerprint of modern humans on its entire presentation. What is the DEFINITION of a God? Why do Gods "need" to be praised? Do they have low self esteem? I thought they were supposed to be omnipotent...
If I were a darker shade I'd be sure this was also a very racist religion. And its so fairy tale like that the truth is, one must ABANDON reason and common sense in order to adhere to Faith.
I believe god is the collective consciousness of all the beings in the cosmos and find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe any of the human stories of religion, as they're all basically myths that reflect the zillionth telling of a story that has morphed so many times it has no relation to the original version.
But hey, that's just my thinking. But can you imagine...in the end, you die and find out these evil bastards had set us all up for failure? I mean, if there IS a god, why not just be straight up about things...why insist on "faith" in a world so full of lies? Seems god ain't too bright in most of the stories. How bout the one where the Hebrew god tells Issac to kill his own son to prove his devotion?! Imagine that? God is Love...not according to most of the stories from ALL the religions.
Funny thing too is how islam, christianity and judaism all come from the religion of Abraham...which had zero to do with being a "Jew".
Actually...most of the Hebrew bible borrowed from other more ancient religions, like that of Babylon, Sumer and Akkad. The story of Gilgamesh from ancient Mesopotamia IS the story of the great flood, the creation just as it basically is in the "Holy Bible".
But the Catholics take the cake...here's a religion that is completely anti humanity. They instructed their "sheep" not to bathe during the time of the plague! They made sex into something dirty...how the fuck are people supposed to reproduce without sex? And why would it feel so so good if its bad for you? What kind of sense of humor does this twisted diety possess?
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Post by maddogblues on Feb 6, 2010 14:40:42 GMT -5
I feel that religion as most Americans know it is designed to facilitate the culture. Historically every religion was a regional religion with a regional God.
You idea about the collective unconsciousness is very Buddhist in outlook. I hold to a notion like that myself. I believe there is 'something'. What it is I feel is an eternal mystery. Much like peeling an infinite onion. There is always one more layer.
One thing I do feel about religious myth in general is that it is the result of mankind seeking to find an explanation for his circumstances. An example is the book of Job in the Old Testament. It is a fascinating story and one of the oldest pieces of western religious literature.
Religion as decided upon by Constantine and his politically correct clerics have turned something worthwhile into a scenario resembling a comic book about a super hero.
I am trying to understand a gnostic interpretation of the Christian faith. I know a little bit about it and it fits in with what I have been learning. Gnosticism existed prior to the present Christian format as an earlier explanation of the Christ event.
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Post by Freedom on Feb 8, 2010 12:16:13 GMT -5
The translation was conducted in Egypt, in the Greek Konye dialect. Who wrote it, of course hellenized jews. ......... Septuagint - What is It? Septuagint (sometimes abbreviated LXX) is the name given to the Greek translation of the Jewish Scriptures. The Septuagint has its origin in Alexandria, Egypt and was translated between 300-200 BC. Widely used among Hellenistic Jews, this Greek translation was produced because many Jews spread throughout the empire were beginning to lose their Hebrew language. The process of translating the Hebrew to Greek also gave many non-Jews a glimpse into Judaism. According to an ancient document called the Letter of Aristeas, it is believed that 70 to 72 Jewish scholars were commissioned during the reign of Ptolemy Philadelphus to carry out the task of translation. The term “Septuagint” means seventy in Latin, and the text is so named to the credit of these 70 scholars. Septuagint - Influence on Christianity The Septuagint was also a source of the Old Testament for early Christians during the first few centuries AD. Many early Christians spoke and read Greek, thus they relied on the Septuagint translation for most of their understanding of the Old Testament. The New Testament writers also relied heavily on the Septuagint, as a majority of Old Testament quotes cited in the New Testament are quoted directly from the Septuagint (others are quoted from the Hebrew texts). Greek church fathers are also known to have quoted from the Septuagint. Even today, the Eastern Orthodox Church relies on the Septuagint for its Old Testament teachings. Some modern Bible translations also use the Septuagint along side Hebrew manuscripts as their source text. Septuagint - What Does It Contain? The Septuagint contains the standard 39 books of the Old Testament canon, as well as certain apocryphal books. The term "Apocrypha" was coined by the fifth-century biblical scholar, Jerome, and generally refers to the set of ancient Jewish writings written during the period between the last book in the Jewish scriptures, Malachi, and the arrival of Jesus Christ. The apocryphal books include Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach (or Ecclesiasticus), the Wisdom of Solomon, First and Second Maccabees, the two Books of Esdras, additions to the Book of Esther, additions to the Book of Daniel, and the Prayer of Manasseh. For further reading on this mumbo jumbo subject...PT2: www.septuagint.net/
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Post by maddogblues on Feb 8, 2010 14:47:40 GMT -5
I'm listening to a college course titled 'Lost Christianities' it is about how the Christian Church morphed into what it is now. It does not entertain the following thought but the Christian Church is now an edifice of cultism, intolerance and political power despising everyone else on the planet.
Can you imagine the historical Jesus associating himself with it?
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