|
Post by maddogblues on Oct 6, 2009 21:58:24 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Freedom on Oct 8, 2009 21:06:12 GMT -5
Kerouac was one of my earliest influences in poetry and the bohemian lifestyle, "On the road" was a great story.
Kerouac: "Whats a bourborini? You get a glass, pour a shot of bourbon, then water, more bourbon, then water and top it off with bourbon. That's a bourborini." ;D
|
|
|
Post by maddogblues on Oct 12, 2009 19:45:00 GMT -5
Kerouac was one of my earliest influences in poetry and the bohemian lifestyle, "On the road" was a great story. Kerouac: "Whats a bourborini? You get a glass, pour a shot of bourbon, then water, more bourbon, then water and top it off with bourbon. That's a bourborini." ;D Well it is clear jack was a drunk. I do not think he was a bohemian in the sense that Burroughs or Ginsberg were bohemians. He felt that LSD was part of a communist plot and did not like it. His peers in the 'beat generation' did not feel this way. My feeling is that Kerouac was an objective observer who detailed what he saw. Most of his books are like narratives rather than first person experiences. Most of his characters in his novels are like cardboard cutouts with no substance beyond their presence on the screen he has put them on. This is not to say that he did not chronicle something going on, but I never felt as if he, himself, were a part of it. Ginsberg loved him and respected him but lamented his attachment to alcohol. Jack would end up drinking himself to death and in my mind never was representative of a bohemian lifestyle in that he shunned the drugs of that lifestyle. Earlier bohemians embraced absinthe and it informed their art. This is not characteristic of Kerouac who shunned the psychedelics of his generation. In my mind Kerouac, in 'On The Road' represents the naive Americanism I embraced, thinking how wonderful and free I am.
|
|
|
Post by Freedom on Oct 12, 2009 20:24:55 GMT -5
There certainly is a difference between today's trust fund bohemian pajama wearing - hitch-hiking brats and the free spirited adventurist, train jumping vagabonds of the 50's & 60's. Kerouac is certainly not lumped in with the "i lived in a surf camp" pretenders of today.
|
|
|
Post by maddogblues on Oct 13, 2009 14:27:01 GMT -5
There certainly is a difference between today's trust fund bohemian pajama wearing - hitch-hiking brats and the free spirited adventurist, train jumping vagabonds of the 50's & 60's. Kerouac is certainly not lumped in with the "i lived in a surf camp" pretenders of today. He was definitely there at ground level, but I always had the feeling he was like one watching. The impact of his books far exceed his abilities. Burroughs referred to him not as a writer, but as a typist. Ginsberg true to his warm nature just loved and promoted him. I recall him commentating at Jack's casket, touching his face and making a remark about a 'clay Buddha'.
|
|
|
Post by Freedom on Oct 14, 2009 20:09:25 GMT -5
There certainly is a difference between today's trust fund bohemian pajama wearing - hitch-hiking brats and the free spirited adventurist, train jumping vagabonds of the 50's & 60's. Kerouac is certainly not lumped in with the "i lived in a surf camp" pretenders of today. He was definitely there at ground level, but I always had the feeling he was like one watching.The impact of his books far exceed his abilities. Burroughs referred to him not as a writer, but as a typist. Ginsberg true to his warm nature just loved and promoted him. I recall him commentating at Jack's casket, touching his face and making a remark about a 'clay Buddha'. Guess it depends on how we relate to the story, i always felt Kerouac was perceptive. I'll bet there were thousands of Kerouacs from our past, it would be great to hear some of their stories. The lore. ;D
|
|
|
Post by maddogblues on Oct 26, 2009 10:02:58 GMT -5
He was definitely there at ground level, but I always had the feeling he was like one watching.The impact of his books far exceed his abilities. Burroughs referred to him not as a writer, but as a typist. Ginsberg true to his warm nature just loved and promoted him. I recall him commentating at Jack's casket, touching his face and making a remark about a 'clay Buddha'. Guess it depends on how we relate to the story, i always felt Kerouac was perceptive. I'll bet there were thousands of Kerouacs from our past, it would be great to hear some of their stories. The lore. ;D Rimbaud and Jim Morrison come to mind. The painters in the expressionist period were mostly bohemians.
|
|